anyone ever thought of adding subframe connectors to the thirdgens to improve the ridgity of the frame. we used to do it to most of the performance thirdgen fbodies we drove. i know some people on this board own thirdgen fbodies and thirdgen jbodies, so jump in...
for those who dont know thirdgen fbodies are 82-92 camaros/z28/IROC and firebird/trans am/GTA etc.
2004 Cavalier, 2.2L Ecotec
1965 El Camino, 396 BBC, 14:1, 800 BHP
RKSport makes one, I think freedom desings makes one as well... the smartpeople make there own, the smart people without the right tools have Ken2.2 make them one.
Darkstars wrote:RKSport makes one, I think freedom desings makes one as well... the smartpeople make there own, the smart people without the right tools have Ken2.2 make them one.
I think you just gave me a compliment.
El Fuego, you got the measurements and the parts for the subframe you made?
The subframe brace is 1" Perforated steel tube, 10 gauge and 31 inchs long. Check my link for details and do a search, the DIY instructions are around somewhere.
I don't think copper pipe would be strong enough to do anything.
2012 HD VRSCF
2010 Ford Explorer
2006 Ford Ranger
2004 Chevy Cavalier
Talk to ken2.2 , I got mine from him very good stuff.
thats a good idea. we used to put braces across like that also, however, i was talking about something more along these lines:
http://www.spohn.net/product.cfm?productid=1309
2004 Cavalier, 2.2L Ecotec
1965 El Camino, 396 BBC, 14:1, 800 BHP
Confrol Fx makes prettier Subframe braces then me for about $80. Thats about the best your gonna get.
plenty of posts in the suspension forum on em, how to make em, who all sells em including ken 2.2 i believe... its like a 7 page plus post...
I don't think the original poster was referring to subframe braces. More likely he's talking about the subframe connectors that run front to back (connecting the front of your car to the back). That's what we use on the SHOs at least...
fortune cookie say:
better a delay than a disaster.
right OVH notec. they are the ones that run front to back and tie the frame together. i will see if i can find some install pics later today on other cars, but i got to get to work.
2004 Cavalier, 2.2L Ecotec
1965 El Camino, 396 BBC, 14:1, 800 BHP
Demonchild wrote:right OVH notec. they are the ones that run front to back and tie the frame together. i will see if i can find some install pics later today on other cars, but i got to get to work.
Thought you didnt need them on UNIbody cars.
That probaly are more benifical on rwd cars because it stops the frame from twisting.
2012 HD VRSCF
2010 Ford Explorer
2006 Ford Ranger
2004 Chevy Cavalier
El Fuego ( the unstable ) wrote:Demonchild wrote:right OVH notec. they are the ones that run front to back and tie the frame together. i will see if i can find some install pics later today on other cars, but i got to get to work.
Thought you didnt need them on UNIbody cars.
You need them MORE on unibody cars...it basically builds a frame where we don't have one.
People that have them on their FWD SHOs swear by them in the corners...
fortune cookie say:
better a delay than a disaster.
so would it be beneficial to build some. I'm thinking i might because i can feel the flex in these cars.
so far, here are my plans before i build some.
rear sway bar
tie bar to connect the rear sway bar
rear strut tower brace
front strut tower brace
subfram connector
ill see what the car feels like after these, but the body roll feels unbelieveable. there is way too much to be useful.
2004 Cavalier, 2.2L Ecotec
1965 El Camino, 396 BBC, 14:1, 800 BHP
also, i think im going to upgrade the front sway bar, as people say that the factory one is close to useless...
2004 Cavalier, 2.2L Ecotec
1965 El Camino, 396 BBC, 14:1, 800 BHP
Do you think a double wide version of my subframe brace would work? Of coarse it would have to be longer.
