if i get header and tb for my 2.4 liter with 2.5 inch with high flow catco muff and high flow cat will i even be able to spin my tires in my 2.4liter cavy z24?????
Yes because you'll have more power and more torque. You should be able to spin now...
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Of course you will, I only have an AEM CAI and Magnflow Cat Back and I can even spin my tires, my cars an automatic too if that makes any difference. So with a Header, TB and 2.5" exhaust you should most definetly be able to spin your tires.
I don't have any mods on my 2.4 yet and i can spin them everytime. And you have the same plan i'm going with so i'm sure we'll both be spinning them a lot more.
Why do you purposely want to spin your tires? Sure sometimes it happens, but I myself prefer to not burn off the rubber that I spent hundreds on.
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hell, if they're already bald and you're about to buy new ones spin em till the pop! :p
Cavalier z24......A poor man's Camaro....close enough, right?
HaVoC187 wrote:hell, if they're already bald and you're about to buy new ones spin em till the pop! :p
And then have fun "poping" your CV joints while yer at it...
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John Leahy
'01 Cavalier Z24 - 5Speed
MaxThrottle.Com
UM, my 01 Z spun tires stock and still do....well I think, I like to savor the tread since rubbers cost Me money and such!!
Like everyone said, spinning tires cost money but unless you are in a burnout competition or something along those lines I wouldn't want to spin them because it just means i'm breaking traction which in my eyes is a bad thing. Thats just me though.
dont yall get tired of telling the same thing to noobs over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again??.....
"There is no point in looking fast if your not."
Seeing as though the chances of you significantly screwing your torque band to hell while gaining some pittance of upper rpm power is quite possible, you may just find spinning your TIRE a little bit harder than you think.
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^^^^ heheheh, yeah, cant wait to get my lsd insert from team green.
but yes, youll spin some rubber, the bottom end of your powerband shouldnt suffer that much. you could get poly mounts in addition to get some back...
...don't hate!.. respect people that have talent, even if it is in something you don't like or understand.
soul horse wrote:^^^^ heheheh, yeah, cant wait to get my lsd insert from team green. but yes, youll spin some rubber, the bottom end of your powerband shouldnt suffer that much. you could get poly mounts in addition to get some back...
Yeah, motor mounts add power. (*sarcasm)
Thanks for continuing to misinform people.
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Red2.ZCavi (The Slanky One) wrote:dont yall get tired of telling the same thing to noobs over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again??.....
Some might but I really don't see you posting in a ton of topics so I don't know why you are so upset. Honestly, most people don't do searches...they see a forum and they are new here, they are going to post and ask a question. Alot of these people are somewhat hesitant to even post because people give attitudes if they say something or ask something wrong and then BOOM people jump all over them...for example this guy who wants to "spin his tires". Sure...you wouldn't want to spin your tires but you don't know this person or how they drive. Maybe he wants to spin them twice a month for all you know and not ever day. I myself like to peel out when I come out of the car wash but that's another topic.
The fact is if people didn't post the "same thing over and over" than you would see MUCH less activity in most of these forums. A lot of times people ask a question but they use it more towards what they are doing or can't find a reasonable answer through searches and would personally like people to respond to them.
So really...why complain about something that isn't going to change? Either you answer their question or you don't....posts like yours aren't productive or helpful in any manner. This isn't an attack against you but this is how I feel about what you posted.
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Sunfires rule! (Tom) wrote:soul horse wrote:^^^^ heheheh, yeah, cant wait to get my lsd insert from team green. but yes, youll spin some rubber, the bottom end of your powerband shouldnt suffer that much. you could get poly mounts in addition to get some back...
Yeah, motor mounts add power. (*sarcasm)
Thanks for continuing to misinform people.
actually he wasnt misinforming anyone. perfromance engine mounts DO RECOVER LOST hp and tq because the engine isnt moving around as much, energy is wasted when the engine moves.
Adios cavalier.
Acid7711 wrote:
Why do you purposely want to spin your tires?
because big smokey burnouts are cool
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You'll never taste God's breath
Because you'll never see the second coming
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I'll take the devil any day
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NJs Honda Killa wrote:Red2.ZCavi (The Slanky One) wrote:dont yall get tired of telling the same thing to noobs over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again??.....
Some might but I really don't see you posting in a ton of topics so I don't know why you are so upset. Honestly, most people don't do searches...they see a forum and they are new here, they are going to post and ask a question. Alot of these people are somewhat hesitant to even post because people give attitudes if they say something or ask something wrong and then BOOM people jump all over them...for example this guy who wants to "spin his tires". Sure...you wouldn't want to spin your tires but you don't know this person or how they drive. Maybe he wants to spin them twice a month for all you know and not ever day. I myself like to peel out when I come out of the car wash but that's another topic.
The fact is if people didn't post the "same thing over and over" than you would see MUCH less activity in most of these forums. A lot of times people ask a question but they use it more towards what they are doing or can't find a reasonable answer through searches and would personally like people to respond to them.
So really...why complain about something that isn't going to change? Either you answer their question or you don't....posts like yours aren't productive or helpful in any manner. This isn't an attack against you but this is how I feel about what you posted.
no offence taken... i know what you mean... but that why i dont post here much anymore becasuse yall are always talking about the same thing... jmo
"There is no point in looking fast if your not."
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no offence taken... i know what you mean... but that why i dont post here much anymore becasuse yall are always talking about the same thing... jmo
It's all good but I do understand where your coming from.
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I wish I could STOP spinning my TIRE. It's too easy. If I am in first gear, and I step on it there's always a squeel, and I can't even think of turning a corner. If I'm trying to make a quick start and accidentally let the clutch out at above 1200 rpm RPM just goes right up to about 6000 and stays there., espcially on cement surfaces. I want a LSD.
wow guys i didnt expect so man replies. I was trying to say will i have low end enough to rip them and still have extreme acceleration. some are saying that a tb and header kill low end torque. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO STILL RIP EM WITH THOSE UPGRADES thats all thanks for all the input
AND DONT BE HATEN, i worded the question wrong I HAVE A BROKEN HAND SO I CANT TYPE WHNE I GET CAST OFF TOMORROW THEN WE HAVE A POST-OUT
Thank You
I'd go with a 4-2-1 header and stay between 56-59mm for the TB. You won't loose too much low end torque and should get some good top end HP gains.
thanks cavyboy for backin me up in the other post.....its completely logical....
Cavalier z24......A poor man's Camaro....close enough, right?
....and thank you, 03cavyboy, lol. I never said either amount ADDED power, simply recover a bit of torque that was lost. i know iv'e seen a dyno result from the old rk forum that showed it recovoed 10 lb/ft? or so. i think people who say they dont recover anything have never had em on their cars. i own em both, and i know my car grabbed a whole lot better off the line with them...it's like saying a flywheel or a pulley doesnt add power...maybe not add, but can free up what was there. i just care about performance.
...don't hate!.. respect people that have talent, even if it is in something you don't like or understand.
to keep is short and simple, dont run out and get the largest
TB
Intake
Header
Exhaust piping
and you should be fine....
stay small to small/medium to keep air flow and exhaust flow fast...
part reason why forced induction have lower end more than not is because the air flow and exhaust flow is like a bullet.
