i just baught a speed chip as it was called off of ebay and was wondering if those are just cheap boxes with some wires in them or if they will really make a big difference. would i be better off spending $300 on the venom chip instead?

It aint gonna work buddy. Sorry.

what you bought is cheap junk. it does nothing. all it is really is a 10 cent resistor you can buy from Radio Shack

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would i be better off spending $300 on the venom chip instead?

and that Venom garbage is junk too.

and before you ask. you can not chip your car



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that sucks balls, what a rip oh well, thanks

supposedly it tricks your computer into thinking it's running colder. I think there's something in the FAQ's about it

and since the computer thinks the engine is running colder it dumps more gasoline in the fuel injectors. making you run richer and supposedly giving more power. all it does is wastes gas and just ruins your engine in the long run from what I've been told.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong?

you are right Inari



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We all gotta start somewhere

95Vet wrote:We all gotta start somewhere

I hear that. you learn something new every day.

Don't know what year your cav is because you didnt update your profile but you can do a descent amount with $300. With are cars there really are no cheap quick gains. Depending on what you want to do with your car you could go with purchasing an intake and maybe upper and lower engine mounts. You'll see a nice little gain with that. If cornerings more your thing, for the $300 you can almost buy Front+Rear Strut tower bar, front subframe, and rear sway. should run more like $350-$400 though. If it seems cheap and promises a good gain, it probably wont. Good luck with it though


Rich

Those cheap chips are resistor's that add a signal to the ECU. It makes the flash point increase making your car put more fuel into the injectors and making your car run harder then it is supposed to. Power gain, yes. Damaging to the car, indeed.

wouldnt say its a power gain....

increasing fuel without increasing air and spark, can work against you power wise.

actually the little intake sensor chip brought me down from 16.02 to 15.90 flat at the track whenever i have it in when my car was stock.

how can you say it's teh chip? obviously you don't know how it works. you can do 15.5 one day and drop to 16 the other day. even in the same day you can change.

plus, if you would have know how combustion works, you would have said that it's a POS since more gas is not better but leaner is.

if you take a stock 2.4 and make it a bit leaner, you'll get more power. there's a limit between too lean and a bit leaner. if you go too lean, you won't make more power same thing for richer.

If you leaner it a bit on a dyno, you'll gain some Hp but reliability will go down.

Take exemple with a torch, more gas doesn't equal better flame. the best flame is a blue one witch is more of a lean flame than a rich one. a rich flame will be yellow and have carbon gas. If it's too lean, it will shut down but if you lean it just enough, you get a nice blue flame that is the best.

Same thing goes for the engine. Leaner = more heat = more power. but too lean = no flame

so all those "chip" and comment about how much it make their car faster is plain BS in capital letter the size of the empire state building.

1/4 mile time are not a reliable source to say I got some power from something. The dyno is the closest thing to reality but it's can still be off.



Gilles
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my buddy bought one for his saturn to see if it would work. we took it apart and its a @!#$ project box from radio shack, a resitor and wires. About 3 bucks in parts.

a chip is only good if u have a turbo...or turbo diesel...

95CavBlue wrote:a chip is only good if u have a turbo...or turbo diesel...

this isn't even completely true, you have to have a compatable ECU that will accept reprogramming via "chip" J-bodies do not have a "chipable" ECU. Not all turbo cars are going to be "chipable" and if you throw a turbo on your car it's not going to be "chipable" either.

WOW!! at this thread.
i can see why Event left for so long



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yea thats what i meant...sorry didnt explain myself more...

yea cars like a VW 1.8t, Ford Diesel trucks...

those cars will get huge gains with a nice chip as to our cars are useless...

They tell you to not even use the chips if you have a turbo or a super charger cause the ECU works differently. So don't even say it only works if you have them...

Obviously it is going to make a small increase. They promise 20hp, but we all know that is bulls*it. It increases the ECU's flashpoint, making it put more fuel into the system, and making it combust faster thus pushing it harder. one of my friends has it and the RPM's do show change. The RPM's haul ass into red line...

As for anything that changes the flashpoint... Example. My friend bought one of the first Mazda 3's that were brought over from Japan. The Japanese models had a small addition as did the RX-8. The ECU could be slightly tweaked to increase the flash point of the engine. The only downfall, he HAS to use premium gas. As a benefit, his car increased from 160HP to 170HP, and his torque went from 170 to 180. The difference shows insanely in his car and it is a 4 cylinder. So I don't want to see people claiming the flashpoint does nothing...

If it put more fuel in without changing anything else, it's a good way to wash the oil in the cylinder and make your engine take an advanced trip to the junkyard..

They never said it was the safest thing to install, lol

It increases the fuel amount into the engine, and the combustion ratio. So there isn't really that much extra gas just sitting around. Problem is, it makes the engine work harder then it needs to and it will damage it in the long run. Since technically you are "tampering with the electrical system", it won't be covered by warranty either despite the fact that most products claim they won't harm it.

SOMEBODY PLEASE LOCK THIS CHIRST ALMIGHTY






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No reason to lock it. People have to learn this stuff somehow.

I have no idea what exodus is talking about though, with the "ECU's flashpoint".

What these things actually do is change the signal coming from the IAT sensor so the engine thinks the air coming in is colder than it actually is. Colder air is denser and thus contains more oxygen. That means you can burn more fuel efficiently in colder air, so the ECU sends more fuel.

Of course, the air isn't actually colder. The ECU just thinks it is. So now the engine is running richer than it should be.

Click my sig and read about the IAT mod for the details on how it will cause damage and why you shouldn't do it.

At the end of the day... it's a big scam that's been going on for years now, taking money from people who don't know any better.

Wild Weasel wrote:No reason to lock it. People have to learn this stuff somehow.

I have no idea what exodus is talking about though, with the "ECU's flashpoint".

What these things actually do is change the signal coming from the IAT sensor so the engine thinks the air coming in is colder than it actually is. Colder air is denser and thus contains more oxygen. That means you can burn more fuel efficiently in colder air, so the ECU sends more fuel.

Of course, the air isn't actually colder. The ECU just thinks it is. So now the engine is running richer than it should be.

Click my sig and read about the IAT mod for the details on how it will cause damage and why you shouldn't do it.

At the end of the day... it's a big scam that's been going on for years now, taking money from people who don't know any better.

yup...

its also in the FAQ at the top of this forum.

I mentioned the "ECU flashpoint" referring to what happend to my friends Mazda. I know these resistor chips don't change the flashpoint.