I just realize that a while back maybe 8-10 months ago my dumbazz was doing a oil change and I bought some engine oil treatment stuff and 5 qts of Vavoline oil.....anyways I putted the WHOLE 5 quarts of oil into my 2002 Ecotec 2.2 Cavalier, which is what is needed according to GM, and putted in 1 qt. of the engine treatment in along w/ the oil....So the volume of oil was increased to 6 qt.s or maybe a little more cause of the old oil that didn't drain....I realize now that if you do put engine treatment in there I'll have to put 4qt.s of oil and then 1qt. of E.T.........Car still drives fine....Should I worry about anything, or what is done is done I guess.....OH yeah, now I always use the dip stick to measure the amount of oil I need....just to be safe

I've heard stories from friends that over filled their crankcase. Pretty much the oil pressure blew out a few gaskets, including the head gasket. never overfill your car.

well i always put a lil extra oil in just to make sure that even when the oil heats up and start circulating theres still enough to go around. My 02 Z24 requires 4 quarts so i put in like 4 and a 1/4th not to much but just enough. thats how everyone i know does it even when i bought my car from the dealer there was a lil extra oil. the reason i know this too is cause i empty the used oil back into the bottles after putting fresh oil in



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ive always been taught its better to have not enough oil then too much keeping it in perspective

It won't cause any damage nor blow some gasket (that was a BS statement).

The thing that happend with "too much oil" is that the crank sit in the oil with will create alot of bubbles in the oil.

But guess what, GM tought about that. The oil pan can easily fit 5 qt of oil. now you had 1. big deal. When the engine is running, how much oil do you think there is in the pan? maybe 2 or 3 not more. The rest is going trough the engine. So it doesn't cause any trouble.

Why do you think the 96-98 2.4 guys use more oil than what Gm recommend, because there's not enough oil in the pan when they take a sharp turn.

As for "having less oil is better than having more", that's false and will always be.
Too much oil may cause the crank to turn in the oil witch result in bubbles. Not enough oil = drop of pressure = goodbye engine.



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Doesn't the Ecotec take 5.8 Quarts? I know it does in the N-Body for sure, just not sure about the J-body.

If your only over by one quart you should be ok. I wouldn't recomend doing it all the time but just this once shouldn't hurt anything.

Funny related story. When I worked at Bud Schmidt Buick we had a women come in complaining that her brand new car was smoking like crazy and leeking oil. My service writer tells me to go look at it and see whats up. So first thing I do is pop the hood and pull the dip stick. When I do oil starts flowing out of the dip stick tube and I'm like oh
s--t what is up with this car. I pull it in and start checking things out oil is everwhere.
It looked like she had a head on with the Exxon Valdeze oil talker. I go up to ask her when the problem started HOPING to get some light shead on this. She said right after she added the oil that wasnot there when she bought the car. I get the look on my face and ask her how she knew there was no oil in her car. She said when she took the cap thingy off where the oil goes she couldn't SEE any in the engine. Then it hit me and I went "oh no you filled the engine ALL the way up with oil?" She said yes why. I went back out to my manager and told him and he couldn't believe it but we decided to drain the engine anyway just to check. Sure enough she had put over 3 gallons of oil into her poor brand new car. After I cleaned everything and put in the
5 qts the car called for she had no more problems and we made her promiss to never check her own car again that she should alwys get help first.




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omg, are you kidding jackalope.........wow.....some people should have locks on their hood release

or basic car maintenance should be required to pass a licence test


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Okay, so when I check the dip stick Should The oil Level Be On the MAX (Word) or should it be below the Arrow where the MAX is, cause mine right now is right on the MAX Level, and everytime I do my oil it is right on there.is that too much???

MAX (Arrow)> TTTT <(Arrow) MIN (Did my best to illustrate)

your fine, if u truly have to much it will just burn out, no reason it should blow any gaskets.


-Borsty

i know the eco should be 5 1/2 quarts , that is what ive used in my g/fs ever since GM had that revison on the amount of oil


and i cant belive your story jackalope ,

if the motor was that full of oil it woulda been hydro locked , or it would had severe damage


i should know cause ive filled a prism full of oil , cause the oil pump stop broke on the oil pump when i worked at chevy , and it wouldnt turn over at all

isnt hydrolock when u get water in the intake/exhast


-Borsty

/\ /\ /\ Yup hydrostactic lock is when the cylinder fills with any kind of a liquid. And since we all know a liquid cannot be compresed the engine wont be able to run. And I absolutly swear guys I'm not lying. But I guess I'd also find it hard to believe if I hadn't seen it myself as well. Don't ask me what posesed her to do it but she did. Little old ladt just didn't know anybetter I guess.




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Borsty wrote:isnt hydrolock when u get water in the intake/exhast

hydro lock is when a liquid prevents something from turning


and if you think back enough , the cylinders go down aways in the block , if you put in enough oil or liquid to fill the bottom end up

its gonna stop the motor from turning alsocause where is the oil gonna go once the motor is full ?? pretty much out the seals and oil cap , and back into the intake

if the motor can spin enough to force it out


maybe she didnt fill it as full as it sounds

I don't kow man but there was over 3 gallons of oil in that thing thats all I know. And as one piston is going down isn't there another one going up. Wouldn't this allow the oil to just move around in the crank case? I would think it could.

But believe me I DO understand your doubt. Its cool no biggie I just thought you guys would have gotten a kick out of it. It was ment to give a smile NOT start another arguement / debate / whatever.




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jackalope ( a.k.a. the prick ) wrote:I don't kow man but there was over 3 gallons of oil in that thing thats all I know. And as one piston is going down isn't there another one going up. Wouldn't this allow the oil to just move around in the crank case? I would think it could.

But believe me I DO understand your doubt. Its cool no biggie I just thought you guys would have gotten a kick out of it. It was ment to give a smile NOT start another arguement / debate / whatever.

that really is hilarious about the old lady, but you're right too...when one piston is going up, another is going down by the same amount, overall there is no net change in the volume of the crankcase, so technically you could fill the engine all the way up with oil and it should still turnover

On my non-j-body, if it gets overfilled by as little as ¼ quart, it leaks out somewhere, but I am unsure where. If I drive the car, it gets a misting of oil underneath, on the back window, and on the back bumper.


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Jackass wrote:Doesn't the Ecotec take 5.8 Quarts? I know it does in the N-Body for sure, just not sure about the J-body.

5.1, Changed oil in two today, one was a Saturn and the other was a Malibu.

Interesting....I know a single 5qt jug will only touch the "low" mark on my Grand Am. I always forget and never remember to buy that 6th quart when at the store. Have to go pick one up everytime the next morning.

hmmm my eco 5 qt jug fill it up all the way.. i can start the car and let it idle for a bit and turn it off then check it again and it goes down to about 3/4 mark... thats very strange...

You're probably talking about it filling up the oil filter after it idles. It's normal.


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over filling it with a quart of engine treatment most likely wont give you any problems, but if you really over fill it, it results in too much oil pressure, you engine basically becomes hydraulic, and YOU WILL BLOW SEALS.




That cop took the whole thing way out of context. I mean, I was only going 145 Km/h in that
80 km/h zone because I was drunk and I wanted to get off the roads.

too much oil pressure?!?!?!?

the oil pump will make the same pressure with 4 quarts or 10 quarts of oil.



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