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Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4)
Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:07 PM
Just wanted to see if there were any TSB's about the common flaw in the 2.4 motors. I know so many people have had this issue, and just wanted to see of there was anything ever done about it through GM. If anyone can shed some light, I would appreciate it. Thanks.




Re: Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4
Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:44 PM
Nope. GM never released a TSB about it, in fact they never officially recognized it as a problem. It only happens in the 97-98 model years, and there are different theorys as to why.





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Re: Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4
Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:33 PM
Nope, no tsbs for that.



Re: Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4
Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:01 AM
Hmm.....thought they might have done something, or had some sort of hidden bulletin, since it is so common of an issue. Oh well, back to playing the game with the warranty company.......



Re: Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4
Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:09 AM
Shifted wrote:Nope. GM never released a TSB about it, in fact they never officially recognized it as a problem. It only happens in the 97-98 model years, and there are different theorys as to why.


Really? Only those years? What are some of the reasons why? I've got an '01, and I've always been worried about it, what changed that it doesn't affect later years?


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Re: Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4
Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:02 AM
Ian Brydon wrote:
Shifted wrote:Nope. GM never released a TSB about it, in fact they never officially recognized it as a problem. It only happens in the 97-98 model years, and there are different theorys as to why.


Really? Only those years? What are some of the reasons why? I've got an '01, and I've always been worried about it, what changed that it doesn't affect later years?


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Re: Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4
Thursday, August 17, 2006 1:44 PM
I have heard it happen on a couple 99. Didn't Ian Lacey when his engine went go because of that same reason and he had a 02.


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Re: Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4
Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:31 PM
How much oil lubricant to be allocated to camshaft (s) vs. crankshaft

has always vexed engineers...

After a few years they tend to re-drill oil passageways to get the

mix right...

In the case of the dual overhead cam GM engines, GM simply

took too long to get it right...
Re: Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4
Friday, August 18, 2006 8:28 AM
Leland Sparks wrote:How much oil lubricant to be allocated to camshaft (s) vs. crankshaft

has always vexed engineers...

After a few years they tend to re-drill oil passageways to get the

mix right...

In the case of the dual overhead cam GM engines, GM simply

took too long to get it right...


Do you have any proof of this (not to sound accusational, lol)? This would be great info, but it's the 1st I've heard of it, and I'd also like to know the specs so that those with older cranks could upgrade when building a motor.


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Re: Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4
Friday, August 18, 2006 8:41 AM
my 99 spun the #3 bearing, Ian Brydon took the engine apart and saw it for himself
Re: Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4
Friday, August 18, 2006 8:43 AM
Top off your oil.



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Re: Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4
Friday, August 18, 2006 9:09 AM
"Do you have any proof of this (not to sound accusational, lol)? This would be great info, but it's the 1st I've heard of it, and I'd also like to know the specs so that those with older cranks could upgrade when building a motor....?"

No, I don't have any proof. Been rebuilding engines almost 60 years...

Never touched one of the Quad Four variety...
Re: Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4
Friday, August 18, 2006 10:28 AM
[quote=Leland Sparks
No, I don't have any proof. Been rebuilding engines almost 60 years...

Never touched one of the Quad Four variety...

Thanks for the clarification, I had just never heard this before, I'd love it to be true as it's the achiles heel of this engine, and I know several people who have fallen victim to it, so I always run synthetic, and watch my oil level.

Dirtbag, your's was a '99, may have been an "old stock" bottom end, who knows. Does anyone know of an '00+ that has spun a bearing?


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Re: Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4
Friday, August 18, 2006 11:29 AM
Ian, it was common to run scattershields to protect drivers when

engines blew...

Perhaps you would like to pursue this subject..here's Google...:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=scatter-shield&btnG=Google+Search
Re: Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4
Sunday, August 20, 2006 6:05 PM
may sound goofy, but i run a 1/2 quart more oil then recommened. not sure if that matters though.


good luck mike.




Re: Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4
Sunday, August 20, 2006 6:49 PM
My Buddy told me he heard the problem was a lower idle on these pre-00 cars and that kept theoil pressure a little lower when idling. Not sure if this is right...Just thought that I throw it in.
Re: Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4
Monday, August 21, 2006 10:11 AM
I believe the issue is at high RPM's, not idle. The pump spins too fast, aerates the oil, and pressure drops at high RPM's starving the bearings.


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Re: Any Tech Bulletins About #3 Rod Bearing? (2.4
Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:24 PM
Hmm, all good info if the topic stays on track.......any other input?



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