So. Since you've now reduced yourself to saying the same thing over and over while you lie there drooling in a fetal position, would you mind if I and the people who actually can talk about something other than themselves get back to the matter at hand? I just want to be sure you've gotten this personal vendetta out of your system before we proceed. You let us know when it's safe to continue.
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Lastly, don't be surprised when you get a warning for that sig. You may want to check out the forum rules instead of posting more babble.
Don't hesitate to report that sig pic to the proper authorities (as if you have not already!). Even cartoons piss you off, lol...that's awesome
By the way, I have no idea what you're talking about with the cartoon. Let me know how my trial on these charges works out: if convicted of the crime you accuse, I can find hundreds more fun cartoons on the interwebz. Some may not even piss you off!
its not the cartoon itself bill
sigs have to be a certain size. you'll have to resize it, or they''ll temporarily ban you. and if that happens, us right wing nutjobs will run amuck, unchecked my a moderate voice of the people.
“Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very Internet you invented. Oh, oh, the irony!” -Jon Stewart
Ah! But it's such a FUN cartoon! Argh.
OK. The internet police appear to have left. Let's get back to the matter at hand,
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In light of the concerns over right-wing extremism, and how it may actually end up working against the Republican Party, let's talk more about the pros and cons.
Should the GOP distance itself from, or more strongly align itself with, far-right interests?
Or should it leave that situation be, and concentrate instead on formulating policies that lean more to the center, so that more voters can be attracted and victories attained at the polls?
And why?
in any situation where trying to get people on your side happens you have to water down the mesagge to feed the most amount of masses
there is a reason why pop music is called "wattered down" and also a reason why pop music has such a large audience. to have the most voters you have to allign yourself with the biggest audience possible.
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i think family guy put it best:
Family Guy wrote: Undecided voters are the biggest idiots on the planet.
unless we want more of nancy pelosi and harry reid, i'd say stick to your roots. why do you think republican turnout has been so low in previous years? lack of true conservative candidates is a great explanation.
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RuggedZ wrote:i think family guy put it best:
Family Guy wrote: Undecided voters are the biggest idiots on the planet.
unless we want more of nancy pelosi and harry reid, i'd say stick to your roots. why do you think republican turnout has been so low in previous years? lack of true conservative candidates is a great explanation.
I think it's been low because they are uninterested in the direction the party has gone. I can tell you it's why I vote for less Republicans these days than I used to. However, I don't think going even further right would solve the current crisis. It could very well deepen it.
People will vote Republican again the economy has to get better. When that happens people will be looking for lower taxes and then the Republicans can make a move. In my opinion and i will use my self a example is Canidates who changes parties all the time. I will give you example our mayor ran as a Republican yet he was anti-gun, pro- illegal immigration the only thing he promissed even though he did not deliver was no change in property taxes and a promise of large returns form the state when every one gets there refund. When Bush was no longer popular he changed parties again to independent. Then when he ran for his third term he changed to a republican again. I voted for Mccain but after senator Shelby,Dodd, and rest of GOP telling GM and Chryco to F&*&k them selves I wont vote Republican for a while
True dat yo, cuz da auto bailouts willy werked good. Saved gm and chryco from filin bankrupcy and made dem profatibel agen.
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RuggedZ wrote:i think family guy put it best:
Family Guy wrote: Undecided voters are the biggest idiots on the planet.
unless we want more of nancy pelosi and harry reid, i'd say stick to your roots. why do you think republican turnout has been so low in previous years? lack of true conservative candidates is a great explanation.
and why are undecided the biggest idiots on the planet? because they choose not to pick a side and try to destroy the other side? because they would rather find some common middle ground rather then say its my way or no way? because they believe in picking the best person for the job and not the one with a D or R beside ther name?
your true hardcore republicans will not sit at the voting booth and say " well there isnt any true hardcore republicans so im going to vote democrat" those harecore guys will vote republican regardless. so the only way to get a bigger voting group is to go more moderate. then you pull in all those people that will swing from one side to the other.
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^ i'm libertarian, not republican. i really dont give a @!#$ what the GOP does, but imo catering to the middle will do nothing for their base, and will push more true conservatives away.
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True dat yo, cuz da auto bailouts willy werked good. Saved gm and chryco from filin bankrupcy and made dem profatibel agen.
Nah Homey Chryco they did o Bankropt yo they used govament as a Buy of all da good assets and liqadated da rest same with Da General da only Diffrence is dat Chryco was pimped out 2 Fiat. And me personaly yo when a party lets dos Mexicans ilegaly and it efex My Local at da contracts time i take it personaly ni$$$ga. So as Far as i Know or cares so longs as my next whip has bow tie or Rams head on it G. I could care less if yo kids has to pick up da tab
people like Scott who are a good reason why we have anti gun, pro illegal imigration, prochoice, jewish Mayor form MA. but i like i said before people will vote republican again i mean look the public option jsut died today on the senate floor
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RuggedZ wrote:^ i'm libertarian, not republican. i really dont give a @!#$ what the GOP does, but imo catering to the middle will do nothing for their base, and will push more true conservatives away.
where would you push a true conservative to? to become a democrat? i doubt that would happen. besides losing a hundred thousand comservatives would be moot if you picked up a million in the middle the true conservatives and the true democrats are alllot smaller then the amount of people in the middle.
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independents can't be counted on as the base of a political party. i'm sorry, but they just can't be. they're all about different issues during different elections. thats why candidates appear to move toward the center during campaigns, to cater to the independents.
i'm not downplaying the importance of independent voters at all, just stating that it wouldn't be smart to make them the base of a political party.
and conservatives would never turn the the democratic party. i never said that at all. but with the direction the republican party is headed, we're gonna see more and more head to the libertarian camp.
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there are allot of people in the middle such as me that don't believe the far right is the proper direction for us, and that the far left isnt the way either, its some way in the middle. i lean towards the repulican side but have some democratic beliefs as well. if you lean more towards the middle your going to pull in those like me, where if you stay with the "hardcore" republican belifs you lose me.
saying you need to stay away from those in the middle (id guess the largest amount of people out there) is like saying well were a small group and we should stay to the beliefs of this small group because we know exactly what everyeone wants. you might as well be saying, we dont give a damn about what you believe in or feel is right, but would you please vote for us so our side can win.
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Sndsgood. Since the republican party aint gonna budge in order to draw moderates, and neither will the democrats, then could make one of three choices:
1) Vote Libertarian
2) Vote Democrat, knowing you'll get liberal social issues and liberal fiscal issues.
3) Vote Republican, knowing you get conservative social and conservative fiscal issues.
If someone is a moderate, then they must choose: Which is more important to me, abortion and gay marriage, OR fiscal responsibility.
Not all moderates are social libs and fiscal conserv, but most of them. Some claim to be moderates, but applaud everything in the liberal playbood. Just which holds the highest priority for you?
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“Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very Internet you invented. Oh, oh, the irony!” -Jon Stewart
yeah right. republicans are not the vaunted voice of reason when it comes to fiscal responsibility. neither are the dems. both parties suck ass at budgeting and being responsible.
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Not the most recent bunch of repubs, Im talking bout the next wave ... The new contract with America well sign when we win the house
“Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very Internet you invented. Oh, oh, the irony!” -Jon Stewart
heh. Better get some Moderates in the boat if you expect that to be anything more than a pipe dream
Good post!
One thing: I don't recall defining "how" they'll gain more moderate votes. What's your impression of my impression on that, and why/how did you reach your impression?