I have a 97' Sunfire GT,
I went and "read entire" my VCM with HP tuners. After that finished I saved the file , then opened it up. I started looking around at the tabels and I noticed all the VE tabels were MAP vs. RPM. I assumed that pre-2000 vcm's were alpha-n, with VE based off TPS vs. RPM. I downloaded some pre 2000 files off of the HPT site and verified that their VE tabels were TPS vs. RPM. whats the deal.... I wanted to get some info before I Licensed my car.
any guess's......or is this sunfire "special"
Click on , Engine , Fuel Control , General... It'll say , IPW Multiplier VS. Vac. ... The '00-'02 with S/C reflash will say , IPW Multiplier VS. Map
"The FACTS are always subject to CHANGE once the TRUTH is applied"
"In the entire history of man the only stupid questions are the ones that don't get asked"
if thats the case that'd be pretty sweet
for boost...
MAP vs RPM > TPS vs RPM
can you email me this HPT file?
Very strange indeed... I have a stock '98 and a stock '99 file. They show Throttle Position% VS. RPM.
Can you e-mail that file?
"The FACTS are always subject to CHANGE once the TRUTH is applied"
"In the entire history of man the only stupid questions are the ones that don't get asked"
i just emailed the file to both of you.
I dont know if you'll be able to open it tho. I dont know how to send the updated 2.1.19.00 beta VCM editor they emailed me its like 18 MB
Thanks... I'll have to get the new beta version so I can open it.
"The FACTS are always subject to CHANGE once the TRUTH is applied"
"In the entire history of man the only stupid questions are the ones that don't get asked"
i'm pretty sure i have that version of HPT already I just updated last week
I won't be able to check the file until I get home tho (anxious)
Anybody get a chance to look at this file yet? If so what'd you find out...is it really speed density?
One of the moderators on HPT said that its entirely possible because "As sometimes GM does change things up a bit." most of the verification of VCM's have been with Chevy Caviliers....not Pontiac Sunfires. same platform, same engines, ................what about the tuning....
I think it's a f*ck up with HPT, I have an 01, and my graphs show the same. Perhaps its with the newest version of HPT we all just downloaded...
its 100% official... straight from chris @ HPT.
I emailed them strait up telling them my situation and asked him to double check everythingand he said it.
My 97' Sunfires VCM is tuned in Speed density. He said a few 97's he's saw have been in speed density instead of alpha-n.
now on to the next step...learning to tune this odd ball VCM....
you could share your VIN number with others, so that they could also use the Map vs RPM maps (for 97-99 2.4's)
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Me too! Could I please get a copy? Pleeeeaaaaase?? Thanks!
2010 Subaru Impreza WRX Limited
1999 Cavalier Z24 Supercharged
1999 Grand AM SE (Beater Car)
1997 GMC Sierra
2007 Honda CBR 600RR
2005 Honda TRX450R
ok I have the HPT file, I got it off of the HPTUNERS forum (thanks Wrench Monkey).... BUT
I cannot open it, I only have 2.1.18.... I need the 2.1.19 beta.
Can you share the link with me that HPT gave you for 2.1.19?
Thanks.
-Chris-
-Sweetness-
-Turbocharged-
Slowly but surely may some day win this race...
Oh, and in case anybody completely missed the importance of this find...
This is the single most important thing to pre2k LD9's with boost since HPTUNERS itself was created and released. With this we have the ability to fake a 2 or 3 bar and add fuel with boost. It is... to say the least... a unicorn. The unthinkable. And it's real.
-Chris-
-Sweetness-
-Turbocharged-
Slowly but surely may some day win this race...
I've got 2.1.19 beta installed, but now I can't find the link from where I downloaded it from. And I must have deleted the install file...crap.
2010 Subaru Impreza WRX Limited
1999 Cavalier Z24 Supercharged
1999 Grand AM SE (Beater Car)
1997 GMC Sierra
2007 Honda CBR 600RR
2005 Honda TRX450R
the link has expired, i have the install file but its 18.6 Mb.. you figure out how i can get it to you and i would gladly send it. can you transfer files this big through IM
Ahhh, the link expired. That's why. I thought for sure it was on my customer page, but it disappeared.
Open up My Computer, and put this link into the address bar: ftp://ftp.lasergrave.net/ I'll PM you the username and password. Copy and paste the file into the folder. Then anyone can access it via a link.
2010 Subaru Impreza WRX Limited
1999 Cavalier Z24 Supercharged
1999 Grand AM SE (Beater Car)
1997 GMC Sierra
2007 Honda CBR 600RR
2005 Honda TRX450R
let me know when you get it up, id like to snag a copy myself.
Liquidplasma, ZIP it up and email it to me at remus2k@gmail.com please.
I added you to MSN but you're not on.
Thanks.
-Chris-
-Sweetness-
-Turbocharged-
Slowly but surely may some day win this race...
If anyone needs the new beta HPT version, or LiquidPlasma's HPT file, they can be accessed here:
FTP Download Site
The username and password are as follows:
user: jbo
pass: 2007
2010 Subaru Impreza WRX Limited
1999 Cavalier Z24 Supercharged
1999 Grand AM SE (Beater Car)
1997 GMC Sierra
2007 Honda CBR 600RR
2005 Honda TRX450R
