I replaced my blinkers and back-up lights with LEDs and nothing worked and the flasher made a buzzing sound. I took the flasher out and found some "LED flashers" on ebay, but they are different. They have 2 or 3 prongs wile the stock GM part has 5, the 2 extra ones are for hazard and ignition connections and the 3 standard ones are battery, turn signal and ground connection. They do have some LED flashers that are connected by wire, do y'all think that I could just disconnect the wires that currently go to the 3 normal prongs and simply connect them to the "LED flasher"? This would also leave the "HAZ" and "IGN" slots open. There is also a 5 prong LED flasher that looks just like the one I have but the ebay auction page says that it is for a Ford truck, are they the same? Basically, I know that someone has solved this problem before, I just want to know how they solved it. I have tried the resistor route and it didn't work, even if it did it is not what I want to use.

Here are the flashers I am talking about:
F-series flasher
3 prong Our flasher looks like the "JSO" version but the "NEG" is "GND" and the "LOAD" is "TS" plus there are two other prongs like I've already stated(HAZ and IGN).
The wire in flasher I think this is the right one to use.


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If I can get my hands on both a ford flasher pinout diagram and a cavalier/sunfire flasher pinout diagram for comparison, based on how that flasher relay looks (the F-150 one) it should work.

The only solution I've found so far is the load resistors. If this works, I'll be happy.

Yeah, I'm going to see if I can get the seller to tell me how it is labeled. The load resistors didn't work for me but I think my flasher was already fried. I've got two that you can have for the cost of shipping if you want them. Maybe I should post in the exterior forum, I bet I would get more replies.


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-The government is best which governs least.
-The forefathers were not necessarily right.
-Religion breeds self-righteousness.
-Ignoring problems rarely fixes them.
-All men are CREATED equal.
-We DO legislate morality.
-Justice does not exist.
-Rely only on yourself.
-Legalize marijuana.
-Gun control kills!

I have more than I need as far as load resistors go... thanks though.

I'll see what answers I get from an F-150 forum on the flasher pinout.

Cool man, I appreciate it. Most guys wouldn't go through that much trouble. I asked the seller, hopefully I will get a response tomorrow. I have a feeling that they are the same. I kinda gave up on my car for a while after a VERY bad experience with an audio shop (stereo FX) and a wheel shop (713 rides), I've lost around $2700 total and it's been sitting for a year. I still have to redo everything.


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-The government is best which governs least.
-The forefathers were not necessarily right.
-Religion breeds self-righteousness.
-Ignoring problems rarely fixes them.
-All men are CREATED equal.
-We DO legislate morality.
-Justice does not exist.
-Rely only on yourself.
-Legalize marijuana.
-Gun control kills!

I want to get rid of my load resistors because I feel they are unsafe (potential fire hazard if mounted in the wrong place or somehow work loose and hit something plastic), so if this is a viable option....

Any word yet? The seller wont respond, maybe I should visit the local ford dealerships parts department.


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-The forefathers were not necessarily right.
-Religion breeds self-righteousness.
-Ignoring problems rarely fixes them.
-All men are CREATED equal.
-We DO legislate morality.
-Justice does not exist.
-Rely only on yourself.
-Legalize marijuana.
-Gun control kills!

Not a thing.... rebumped my thread on teh Ford forum though.

I don't have any Ford dealers nearby, or I'd go that route myself

Since the pins on that ford flasher look the same as our stock socket they should work the same. I changed my bulbs over a while ago and found that the electronic flasher from advance auto works fine...it just takes longer to heat up for the first click because of the low resistance of the LED's. So when you put the turn signal on, the lights will be on for twice as long, for a whole second while the filament heats up and then they will flash each half second like normal. It says right on the package for variable resistance or something like that, so the flasher will work with either high or low resistance, it just takes an extra half-second to warm up when you use LED's. So save the shipping and look for an electronic flasher....

Cool, I'll check advance auto this weekend. Thanks for the input.


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-Religion breeds self-righteousness.
-Ignoring problems rarely fixes them.
-All men are CREATED equal.
-We DO legislate morality.
-Justice does not exist.
-Rely only on yourself.
-Legalize marijuana.
-Gun control kills!

So, I went to advanced and they were NOT "ready in advance". Also, apparently napa isn't "THE auto parts store". Advance had the variable load flashers in every configuration except the 5-prong version. I should have remembered the brand and found an online dealer, I might go back. They only stock a few versions and this leads me to believe that the ford version will be the same, but I don't really want to pay $50 for one, they were under $20 at advanced. Maybe they could order it.


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-Justice does not exist.
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-Legalize marijuana.
-Gun control kills!

They sure are ready in advance if you want bling-ass chrome valve caps but when you need something to make your car actually work......That aside they can order the part in a few days. I had them order the typical A/C resistor for my 99Z and it came in three days with no extra charge. And I hate to say this but some of the bigger wal-marts might carry enough car junk they might have one.

Back from the dead.

My driver's side tail bulb blew out, so I had a novel idea. I looked up the part # for the F-150 flasher and Cav flasher in the bulb book @ the auto parts store. Both use Buss flasher AC-20. It'll work, no problem.

Shweet! I've been driving the other car, I'm kinda sick of the Cav, I still need to get it back on the road though. I figured that they were the same because there was only one model of 5-pin flashers at the places I checked. Don't pay $50 for it though. Go to advanced and if they don't have it order it.(like thenetdog said) I think it was less than $25.


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-The forefathers were not necessarily right.
-Religion breeds self-righteousness.
-Ignoring problems rarely fixes them.
-All men are CREATED equal.
-We DO legislate morality.
-Justice does not exist.
-Rely only on yourself.
-Legalize marijuana.
-Gun control kills!

I did some research in the grote lighting book and they have a 5 prong flasher for led's. the part number is 44090 and is made by grote. Ive checked online and they can be had for 28 bucks. Ill be buying one to see if it actually works.