I am about to run my air lines and I was looking for adivce from people who have done or redone their air line running for certain reasons or advtantages. I want to run them right the first time, what are some things youve ran into, things I should be careful for or watch out for.
I would also like to run them outside of the car because I know it will be easier, I wil probably be protecting them with some type of covering, but where should I run the air lines through the trunk at? I was thinking in the spare tire well. I will use rubber gromits where it is ran through metal to protect the lines.
Please post pictures of how you have run your lines (both out of the trunk and along the car to the front)! Thanks a lot guys!
-Nate (ZeeTwankyFo)
mine are under the carpet so im not help to ya for pics
but most people will run them tucked along the fuel lines as they are somewhat protected there
Phil Thacker
JCO North President
Its pretty easy to run them inside the vehicle... Id say easier than underneath, for sure... Plus, they aren't as exposed to the elements as much.. More convenient to find leaks, etc..
I ran mine out the firewall and drilled 2 holes in each wheel well up front... Make sure the front airlines are close to the same length.. If you are doing a FBSS setup and one line is longer than the other, it will take more air in it to raise it to the same height.. Frustrating when using the switch to raise the front, you'll have to adjust each corner individually... Same goes for the rear, but they are fairly short anyway.
When the airline is exposed in the wheel well, I would probably cover it in some braided steel tubing.
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mine are along the brake lines on the drivers side, watch for moving parts and your exhaust lol, any where it rubs i used heater hose to protect the airline from rubbing. and i used conduit holders on the inside of the wheel well to hold the hose away from the tire to keep it from rubbing. i would snap some pics for ya but my car is at the paint shop gettin sprayed
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i ran mine about 2 inches in from the pinch line. there is a rail that runs all the way down the car, thats what i used to zip tie everything. then when it got to the rear i drilled 2 holes in the back of each wheel well and ran each line from that side through there and into the trunk.
i ran mine basically the same as sevenonesix did, but i brought mine through the spare tire well
but im about to redo my lines and run them equal lengths, front to back, on the inside of the car rather then the outside, later
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First of all thanks everyone for the responces. I was just wondering, I think I am going to take ur guy's suggestions and run them inside, the only thing I wanted to know is if I run them both on the same side to the front, how to I keep them the same length? Should I just coil up some line on the shorter side(the one I run it on).
Also where under the carpet did you run it?
-Nate (ZeeTwankyFo)
PUT THEM ON THE OUTSIDE lol, like you said coil up the excess it should be pretty close though
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I ran mine on the outside... drove the car all winter long, no problems so far with the lines... (knock on wood)
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Has anyone had problems with 'blowing' fittings or lines?
Sorry, that last post was actually by me on my girl friends computer.
-Nate (ZeeTwankyFo)
i havent had any real problems with blowing.... however one time, when i jacked the side of my car up with a jack, and had the struts all full of air, the line running to one of my gauges blew off.... but i think that was cause it wasnt on that well to begin with....
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the lines are really strong, they shouldnt break unless they are cut. as for the fittings i had a problem with the 90 degree elbow that the fill valve is on. 2 of them, the little metal cylinder inside them that holes the line in place came off which caused a good size leak of about 40psi over night. other than that, i havent had any problems. i have my lines ran outside and i drive all winter long.
I had an
AIM fitting blow on my tank when I was doing about 55-60 mph.
It was my main feed line to my valves so I lost all pressure on all four corners while driving. I pulled over in a ball of tire smoke. SMC vlaves require backpressure from tank to keep bags up.
THe Plastic AIM fitting just seperated. I was able to wedge it back together and rig it up enough to get me home.
I had one more of those cheep things and I caught it when it was halfway sepreating.
NO MORE AIM FOR ME
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^^^ holy sheit... that's gotta suck! I froze one exit valve in the open position and all the air pressure dropped outta my tank causing my car to slam to the ground. But I wasn't moving... that must have been scary as hell..
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I have all stainless steel fittings, and I have 2 water traps to catch any moisture in the system. Hopefully I dont have any problems!!
-Nate (ZeeTwankyFo)
THose water traps will get whatever is coming directly from the compressors but what about that water in the tank? You will need some on the outgoing side of the tank going to the valves. You get yoursetup running for about a month drain your traps everyother day and then dump your tank after a month. WIll will be very suprised how much water did get in there.
THats why I gave up on the traps and put a valve at the bottom.
I think no air ride setup should go without a bottom port thats easy to drain like mine.
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Yo, how does water get into the tank if I have a trap on each compressor, the only air that gets into the tank is from the compressors. Please explain!
I think its just because of the backpressure required for the SMC valves you had, like you mentioned earlier. Because I dont see how any other air would enter the system.
Thanks for all of your help guys!
-Nate (ZeeTwankyFo)
OK fine run the traps. BUt no matter what you do. NO matter how expensive your traps are. You WILL get condesation in the tank.
But hey. WTF do I know. Ive only been dealing with tanks and compressors for 10 years.
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trunk set up
i ran the air lines and the wires inside the car
esb you are so right no one will ever listen to the voice of experience
can i haz bondo
SOme things you need to learn on your own I guess.
I know ive learned a lot of things the hard way.
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big daddy I understand thats not a cavalier but i would like to see more pics of that trunk setup, it looks so tiny and compact, what size are your lines going to the bags?
looks like 1/4" line to me
Phil Thacker
JCO North President
is there anything i can buy so i can use 1/4" air line to go to the bags instead of the bigger airline im using that came with the easystreet kit? would 1/4" line slow it down? i dont like it going up and down so fast.
Hey Zee,
Liten to esb on this one he knows what he is talking about. I have 2 traps on mine as well and i just got off the air setup so i can make a custom insatll and pulled my tank out and there was almost a half a gallon in there. So what we are goig nto do is put a valve on it and have it drain straight out the floor to the outside.
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