has anyone done this or thought about doing it?
try searching
there's about 76894372589 threads on this
ya how long? anyway there is not much about the le5 in "search"
wtf is the le5? and sadly i know engine codes lol
Can't be done without stand alone ems.
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DO IT, I really want to see a J with the 2.4 done up! Its probably not any less work than swapping a 3.4 in though.
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The crank is completely different, a cav has a 6x reluctor ring, the le5 has a 56x, there is NO way to do anything about this w/o a stand alone. Trust me, I've dug and dug trying to find a loop hole that will allow this swap w/o the use of a stand alone, it's not there. Cruel hard facts of life. So again I say, it cannot be done w/o the aid of a stand alone ems.
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I would love to see that too
GMR has got nothing on this
ecotech swaps are easy, the 2.4 is the same thing thing just biger, it'll drop right in no problem. I'd but the sky/solstice 6 speed in it to. Start buying parts and post pics of the progress, just use an ecu form an eco and your done.
Darkstars wrote:ecotech swaps are easy, the 2.4 is the same thing thing just biger, it'll drop right in no problem. I'd but the sky/solstice 6 speed in it to. Start buying parts and post pics of the progress, just use an ecu form an eco and your done.
rwd tranny = not fwd freindly,
My Cav
I give up...
i'm buying a VW those people love trees, so they should love eachother too... "Andy"
So you guys really don't buy into that the crank has a different reluctor ring huh? Fine go get yourself a LE5 and bolt it up or a 07 LSJ go ahead, I think that one has the 56x reluctor ring too. And when they don't work w/ a standard L61 ecu,don't come in here crying that it's runnin like crap.I've tried, and tried, and tried to figure out how to do it w/o a stand alone. It will bolt up, but the pcm will give you hell and it won't run right until you address the difference in the reluctor ring. The L61 pcm is only expecting to see the difference in the crank sensor 6 times per revolution, when it sees it 56 times it's going to idle and run like complete crap. Until someone comes out w/ a stroker kit or something for the L61 we are currently stuck w/ it unless you go w/ a stand alone.
I would love to have the increase in displacement and compression that the LE5 offers, 10.5:1 stock compression, along w/ a larger bore and longer stroke than a L61. I just don't want a stand alone....yet. And I've yet to see aftermarket rods/pistons for the LE5, so until I'm ready to do a stand alone and the aftermarket offers pistons/rods, this won't be happening anytime soon for me.
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Darkstars wrote:ecotech swaps are easy, the 2.4 is the same thing thing just biger, it'll drop right in no problem. I'd but the sky/solstice 6 speed in it to. Start buying parts and post pics of the progress, just use an ecu form an eco and your done.
I was kidding. Its been talked up many times and its well known that its not a dirrect or easy swap. If I can get some dumb ass to start buying parts and make a progress thread becasue he can't search that wouold be funny to me
Darkstars wrote:Darkstars wrote:ecotech swaps are easy, the 2.4 is the same thing thing just biger, it'll drop right in no problem. I'd but the sky/solstice 6 speed in it to. Start buying parts and post pics of the progress, just use an ecu form an eco and your done.
I was kidding. Its been talked up many times and its well known that its not a dirrect or easy swap. If I can get some dumb ass to start buying parts and make a progress thread becasue he can't search that wouold be funny to me
Ahhh.... now I get it.
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Short Hand wrote:Darkstars wrote:ecotech swaps are easy, the 2.4 is the same thing thing just biger, it'll drop right in no problem. I'd but the sky/solstice 6 speed in it to. Start buying parts and post pics of the progress, just use an ecu form an eco and your done.
rwd tranny = not fwd freindly,
I have an LE5 in my HHR and so does the Cobalt SS (non-supercharged). They will also be in the new Malibu, so the LE5 is in something other than the Solstice.
Skunk v.2K4 wrote:Darkstars wrote:Darkstars wrote: ecotec swaps are easy, the 2.4 is the same thing thing just bigger, it'll drop right in no problem. I'd but the sky/solstice 6 speed in it to. Start buying parts and post pics of the progress, just use an ecu form an eco and your done.
I was kidding. Its been talked up many times and its well known that its not a direct or easy swap. If I can get some dumb ass to start buying parts and make a progress thread because he can't search that wouold be funny to me
Ahhh.... now I get it.
haha I seen him say that and knew EXACTLY what he was doing lol
CHM wrote:Short Hand wrote:Darkstars wrote:ecotech swaps are easy, the 2.4 is the same thing thing just biger, it'll drop right in no problem. I'd but the sky/solstice 6 speed in it to. Start buying parts and post pics of the progress, just use an ecu form an eco and your done.
rwd tranny = not fwd freindly,
I have an LE5 in my HHR and so does the Cobalt SS (non-supercharged). They will also be in the new Malibu, so the LE5 is in something other than the Solstice.
Their also in the G6. Where did everyone get the idea that the solstice was the only car with it!?
You'll have to get a tranny to fit, but sure, it should work with some custom mounts.
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Rob Durrett wrote:CHM wrote:Short Hand wrote:Darkstars wrote:ecotech swaps are easy, the 2.4 is the same thing thing just biger, it'll drop right in no problem. I'd but the sky/solstice 6 speed in it to. Start buying parts and post pics of the progress, just use an ecu form an eco and your done.
rwd tranny = not fwd freindly,
I have an LE5 in my HHR and so does the Cobalt SS (non-supercharged). They will also be in the new Malibu, so the LE5 is in something other than the Solstice.
Their also in the G6. Where did everyone get the idea that the solstice was the only car with it!?
You'll have to get a tranny to fit, but sure, it should work with some custom mounts.
the LE5 (2.4l ecotec n/a) is found in:
Cobalt
HHR
Malibu
G5
G6
Solstice
Sky
i'm pretty sure there's others
you don't need custom mounts, the blocks are the same just bolt on the motor mounts and it'll bolt in
its a different story electronically
Darkstars wrote:Darkstars wrote:ecotech swaps are easy, the 2.4 is the same thing thing just biger, it'll drop right in no problem. I'd but the sky/solstice 6 speed in it to. Start buying parts and post pics of the progress, just use an ecu form an eco and your done.
I was kidding. Its been talked up many times and its well known that its not a dirrect or easy swap. If I can get some dumb ass to start buying parts and make a progress thread becasue he can't search that wouold be funny to me
I have a 2004 Saturn Ion REDLINE. I have bolted a LE5 short block with eagle rods and wiseco pistons and a LSJ head and blower. the reluctor rings are different your correct but they can be swapped heres some pics of the LSJ reluctor ring and the LE5 reluctor ring.
heres some pics so you guys can see the difference.
in this pic the LSJ reluctor wheel is on the left the LE5 on the right.
in this pic the rings are in the position they would be mounted on the crank. the bolt holes only line up one way from what I can tell. in the pic the LE5 ring is sitting on top you can see a difference in not only tooth spacing size but its very obvious that the reference gaps are in different spots from each other. as you can see by the reference gap difference the LE5 ring reference gap is severly retarted compaired to the LSJ ring. this could explain why my down pipe was lighting up glowing red when the car was idling. actually by compairing this it explaines why my car was acting the way it was period... of you see the two rings in person it appears that the tooth spacing are slightly smaller from ring to ring the same goes with the reference gaps as well. The car (computer needed to see the LSJ ring and it wasnt so im almost certain that this will be my fix.)
Heres some other pics of the two rings.
LE5 ring
LSJ Ring
Skunk v.2K4 wrote:So you guys really don't buy into that the crank has a different reluctor ring huh? Fine go get yourself a LE5 and bolt it up or a 07 LSJ go ahead, I think that one has the 56x reluctor ring too. And when they don't work w/ a standard L61 ecu,don't come in here crying that it's runnin like crap.I've tried, and tried, and tried to figure out how to do it w/o a stand alone. It will bolt up, but the pcm will give you hell and it won't run right until you address the difference in the reluctor ring. The L61 pcm is only expecting to see the difference in the crank sensor 6 times per revolution, when it sees it 56 times it's going to idle and run like complete crap. Until someone comes out w/ a stroker kit or something for the L61 we are currently stuck w/ it unless you go w/ a stand alone.
I would love to have the increase in displacement and compression that the LE5 offers, 10.5:1 stock compression, along w/ a larger bore and longer stroke than a L61. I just don't want a stand alone....yet. And I've yet to see aftermarket rods/pistons for the LE5, so until I'm ready to do a stand alone and the aftermarket offers pistons/rods, this won't be happening anytime soon for me.
I have a 2004 Saturn Ion REDLINE. I have bolted a LE5 short block with eagle rods and wiseco pistons and a LSJ head and blower. the reluctor rings are different your correct but they can be swapped heres some pics of the LSJ reluctor ring and the LE5 reluctor ring. if you wanted to use the PCM out of a Ion REDLINE or Cobalt SS S/C and still put a LE5 in your car it can be done.
heres some pics so you guys can see the difference.
in this pic the LSJ reluctor wheel is on the left the LE5 on the right.
heres some pics so you guys can see the difference.
in this pic the LSJ reluctor wheel is on the left the LE5 on the right.
in this pic the rings are in the position they would be mounted on the crank. the bolt holes only line up one way from what I can tell. in the pic the LE5 ring is sitting on top you can see a difference in not only tooth spacing size but its very obvious that the reference gaps are in different spots from each other. as you can see by the reference gap difference the LE5 ring reference gap is severly retarted compaired to the LSJ ring. this could explain why my down pipe was lighting up glowing red when the car was idling. actually by compairing this it explaines why my car was acting the way it was period... of you see the two rings in person it appears that the tooth spacing are slightly smaller from ring to ring the same goes with the reference gaps as well. The car (computer needed to see the LSJ ring and it wasnt so im almost certain that this will be my fix.)
Heres some other pics of the two rings.
LE5 ring
LSJ Ring
huh thats pretty awesome man, have you got this to run yet??
is it that hard to use the damn search button? you just goto the lil search boxy thing.. and type in words that pertain to what you're looking for...
