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Pacesetter Header Questions
Sunday, July 17, 2005 2:27 PM
Ok so i took everyones advice from the last set of questions and starting sanding .
Here's my progress for just a couple of hours ( i know its no where near done ).





So when im done , im really interested in this paint
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=3895&prmenbr=361
Is this all im going to need? Do i need a clear coat afterwards?

And lastly ...



The "downpipe" for the Eco is only to connect to the stock exhaust correct? So that would mean the exhaust shop is going to have make a custom downpipe ?



Thank you for any replies ...







Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Sunday, July 17, 2005 2:29 PM
hopefully the stuff I showed you from Jeg's will work

lemme know how it goes DJ






Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Sunday, July 17, 2005 2:37 PM
the downpipe is actually that little piece of pipe. they can cut the smaller piece off and connect it to the rest of the exhuast by welding it....thats the quicker method.

also just for a safety measure, might think on getting a flex pipe in there. even with engine mounts.

as for the paint... worth a try. if it doesnt work, get it coated, ceramic. more heat protection inside and out than paint can give.



Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:15 PM
Thanks Event , ill have to explain it to them when i go.
Im guessing the exhaust shop should have the flexpipe?






Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:23 PM
ehhh some do, some dont.

most any well stocked autostore should have em, or any specific exhaust retailers locally should.



Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:56 PM
I just found one for 25 bucks ( shiny stainless ) from the place im ordering my high flow cat from. So i'll just grab both at the same time .

And i just ordered the Blue VHT Flamecoating Header paint so ill post pics when its all done .






Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Sunday, July 17, 2005 9:48 PM
make sure you follow the instructions for the paint in both prep and curing


also the down pipe is 2 1/4" up to where its necked down to fit with the stock exhaust , so you can cut off the section where its necked down , and use 2 1/4" pipe from there







Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Monday, July 18, 2005 12:48 AM
Well going by this it doesn't look to bad.

Application: Apply a THIN, even coat - just enough to thoroughly COLOR. Excessive build-up is not necessary or recommended. In applications requiring heavy coating, build-up should be done in stages, each successive coat being cured as recommended below. Nominal coating wet thickness .0015'' - .002''.
VHT FlameProof coatings require no primer. For most economical use of VHT FlameProof colors on ''hard to hide'' surfaces, apply a thin coat of VHT FlameProof White or VHT FlameProof Silver base coating.

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Just make sure the surface has no paint on it , and it smooth / clean . And spray a nice even coat?

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Curing: VHT FlameProof coatings will air dry in 15 to 30 minutes and, if handled with reasonable care, may be put to immediate use. Heat curing method for maximum resistance to solvents, salt spray, humidity, thermal shock and heat:

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I was planning on hanging it in the garage , doing a coat or so , letting it dry , and then go and do some more. Then so on and so forth until its done.





Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Monday, July 18, 2005 4:35 AM
Hey JerseyKid,

I just got my header too. I am getting that little end piece on the downpipe chopped off.
Good luck with the painting. I'm too lazy, I just got mine ceramic coated. Make sure to post pics when done. and let us know if it still holds up after a few days.

And Event.

I know with this header, it has a type of ball and socket joint on it. Is it really necesary to use a flex pipe too?



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Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Monday, July 18, 2005 7:03 AM
I didnt have a flex pipe installed when I got mine done, should it be ok with that ball/socket style eith mounts etc?



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Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Monday, July 18, 2005 11:04 AM
the other style flex joint isnt really needed


only times ive seen or heard of problems is with no mounts at all , my friends ate the ball socket up








Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Monday, July 18, 2005 8:39 PM
Hit us up with some progress pics of the header.



Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Tuesday, July 19, 2005 3:05 AM
^^^
Here's a little update for you BoostedSVTF




Started at the connector on the bottom.


Started getting around the tops .

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But while i was doing the top , i got a deep laceration and i needed to stop.
Looks like progress will be halted for a few months .









Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:43 AM
jersey kid, get a heat gun... it should only be like $25 and will make stripping so much easier. Also, there are some excellent chemicals for stripping paint that will make the job easier.

I personally would have gone with DEIs ceramic paint, since afaik, it doesnt require curing and withstands up to 1500*F.



Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:53 AM
ECOTEC wrote:Hey JerseyKid,

I know with this header, it has a type of ball and socket joint on it. Is it really necesary to use a flex pipe too?



cut off the "ball and socket joint" and install a flex pipe there, you'll be better off, i've had my ceramic coated 2.2OHV pacesetter header on my cav for a year and the welds went bad & now the "ball & socket" joint is starting to leak




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Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:37 PM
Well like everyone said , i went out and got some paint stripper and applied a couple of coats . Here's the progress ...















There is alot of small speckles and lines , what do you think would be the best to remove these, just sand them ?







Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:01 PM
NICE! heres what you do though.... <a href='http://consumeralertsystem.com/cas/zx-hclick.php?hid=334' target='_blank'>buy</a> 2 more cans of it, then use This bucket: to soak the ball end in. AND then reuse the stripper to soak the flange in this bucket:
Or if worst comes to worst you can always fill up that sweet watergun with paint stripper and blast the paint away



Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:21 PM
looking good, keep it up



Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:49 PM
Wow all that work to get the paint off.

Eric, why can't pacesetter just leave a raw finish with oil or wd40 sprayed on it?
Just a question.


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Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:11 PM
BoostedSVTF wrote:NICE! heres what you do though.... <a href='http://consumeralertsystem.com/cas/zx-hclick.php?hid=334' target='_blank'>buy</a> 2 more cans of it, then use This bucket: to soak the ball end in. AND then reuse the stripper to soak the flange in this bucket:
Or if worst comes to worst you can always fill up that sweet watergun with paint stripper and blast the paint away



something about paint stripper and plastic thin plastics makes me think of finding a better container



Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:18 PM
Sunfires rule! (Tom) wrote:Wow all that work to get the paint off.

Eric, why can't pacesetter just leave a raw finish with oil or wd40 sprayed on it?
Just a question.



honestly , people would complain either


the whole damed if you do , and damed if you dont


rust or paint , you pick the lesser of the 2 evils








Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:30 PM
actually i'll pick for you. paint is the lesser of the two evils.




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Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:19 PM
Thats exactly why im doing this , i didnt do it on my OHV , and within days the paint burned off and it starting rusting.

And i know everyone will be like "oh you should have gotten it armor coated " blah blah blah.

I really dont have the money , and i really dont want to , i want to paint it , so thats what im doing .






Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:21 PM
Where are you getting your header bolts from. im looking for a good site to for my 1998 z24 cavalier
Re: Pacesetter Header Questions
Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:22 PM
The Stock ones worked on my OHV , im assuming they would work on the Pacesetter.






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